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ID check policies for NSFW/18+ communities, groups, and channels
ID is NOT a default or preferred form of age verification for our Telegram Groups.
ID is NOT a default or preferred form of age verification for our Telegram Groups.
Staff will ask for ID when it is necessary for the age verification process of our Telegram Groups.
Staff will ask for ID when it is necessary for the age verification process of our Telegram Groups.
a. Staff reserve the right to request photo ID along with a picture of you for the following reasons:
1. When a user is joining Dreamy Drove and is not 18+ verified on VRChat
2. For additional age verification measures when joining our 18+ Telegram communities.
3. If at any time we have come to the conclusion that you might be underage.
4. If at any time we have come to the conclusion or otherwise suspect that you are lying or have lied to staff about your age.
5. To investigate reports of you potentially being underage.
i. We only accept and investigate underage reports of users who have admitted to being underage or having lied about their age during their time within our 18+ communities.
6. If at any time staff witness you admitting to being underage anywhere within our network, to someone else in pm, or having it in your account bio.
b. We accept ONLY ONE substitution for our ID check policy for our Telegram groups and that is if a user is already in our Dreamy Drove VR meetup group and their VRChat account is 18+ verified.
ID Check Procedures
ID Check Procedures
NOTE: This is NOT our main or default form of age verification for our Telegram groups. Please only submit ID upon request.
NOTE: This is NOT our main or default form of age verification for our Telegram groups. Please only submit ID upon request.
How to submit an ID:
How to submit an ID:
If possible, create a Telegram secret chat with the community staff member conducting your age verification and subsequent ID check. (Secret chats are only available on mobile)
Telegram secret chats are end to end encrypted. This is for your privacy and safety. Secret chats cannot be screenshot, forwarded, and images cannot be saved. If the client detects a screenshot is successful it will typically warn both users of the event.
Feel free to add a timer to messages. Please allow at least 1 minute for the community staff member to inspect the images.
Take a picture of your ID with a piece of paper next to it with the following information: your telegram username, the date, and the name of the of our community "LCM The Cove" on it.
a) Please make sure the following information is visible on your ID
Date of birth
Expiration date
Photo
Issuing country and state/province
Enough of the ID to determine it is not a fake/counterfeit
b) Feel free to censor out the following information from your ID:
Legal name & Signature
Characteristics such as: weight, height, eye color, etc
ID# & SS#
Address
Take a selfie holding up the ID and piece of paper next to you.
Send both imaged in the secret chat you created with the community staff member.
What do you do with ID's after they are verified?
What do you do with ID's after they are verified?
If a secret chat is used then staff cannot capture your ID and thus cannot process it other than visually inspecting it.
IF secret chats cannot be used then the following admin policies and procedures are in place to protect you and your information:
Staff are trained to delete any message that contain sensitive information, including photos of ID's, after verification. They might ask the chat member to delete it themselves (and make sure to check "delete for both participants") for extra peace of mind.
We do not store any ID's or face pics anywhere for any reason.
Since staff deal with this sensitive information they are bound by an NDA that states they are to protect the information shared with them and delete it once they are done with their verification.
Failure to do so will result in legal action from Lucid Creations Media and they assume legal liability and responsibility for not properly protecting such data and information.
Why check IDs?
We want to make sure everyone is of age when possible. It's about legal liability and keeping staff and community members safe. We don't feel that it is necessary to check everyone's IDs for our Telegram group which is why we do it on a case by case basis and randomly.
What if I'm uncomfortable showing my face or ID?
We understand that this process can be uncomfortable for some. We aren't here to judge looks. We are here to protect ourselves and everyone in the community. If you don't like our process then we would simply suggest you seek other communities that don't have these check and polices and thus might have minors within them.
This is about safety over convenience. Do you want to have more certainty that people in our community are actually of age or simply accept and have the risk of interacting with minors?
Can I show the age of accounts, that I am in other communities that require ID checks, or an age verified status on trusted sites to bypass your ID check?
No, we do not accept 99% of substitutions for this policy.
The ONLY exception is if your VRChat account is 18+ verified and you are already within our Dreamy Drove VR meetup group.
What if I don't feel safe doing this because I'm trans?
We are an ally. E2E encryption completely eliminates any possibility of a 3rd party from seeing the images. Even if they can obtain the packets, they will be encrypted and will be useless to them. We have trans staff and are pro LGBTQ+. Not sure how else we can convince you.
What if I don't trust your process?
Then give us constructive criticism and help us build a better process or close holes you perceive our process to have. There's no flawless ID checks online. We can only do so much to mitigate minors having access to adult spaces online and protect ourselves and the community members from liability.
What if I don't trust LCM, The Cove, or the staff team?
Then join a different community.
What if I do not have an ID or don't feel comfortable sharing my ID?
Unfortunately if you do not have an ID we will have to kick you from every 18+ group you until you have an ID.
Refusal or failure to to show a valid ID, giving us trouble about having to show your ID for verification, or not following the ID check policies as stated on the ID Check Policy page will result in a community-wide ban, you will be marked and deemed a suspected minor, and your next verification will be made much harder than the initial one even if you changed your mind about this process and request.
All rules, Terms, policies, guidelines and community standards regarding the community and Lucid Creations Media is subject to change without notice.
It is a privilege, not a right, to be allowed into and to have access to this community and your access to this community may be terminated or suspended immediately, without prior notice or liability, for any reason whatsoever, including without limitation if you breach community standards, the community's terms, or the terms of Lucid Creations Media. The community staff team is the sole arbitrator of what does and what does not violate community standards and reserve the right to suspend, limit or terminate access to the community including any permissions and privileges allotted within them. Breach of community standards include, but are not necessarily limited to, failure to follow any rules, policies, guidelines, or standards listed on this page or another within the community's website.
We evaluate each incident on a case by case basis. If a member is found to have breached any rules, terms, or standard of the community then appropriate action will be taken based on the severity. Potential actions staff may take for such breaches may include a verbal warning from a moderator, a warning from our bot, temporary or permanent restrictions from using certain features inside the groups (embedded links, sending media like; videos, music, and pictures, sending stickers & gifs, etc), and a temporary or permanent ban.
An automatic escalation of consequences will likely be considered and used if you receive 3 warns in a short time frame regardless of the severity of a single offense or accumulative offense(s). Note that warns are forgiven after continued good behavior. The timeline for the removal of any warn is based on the rule, severity of offense against the rule, and if any warns preceding it.
Staff will not discuss disciplinary actions in public under any circumstances and will not discuss it in private with any person(s) who aren't directly involved. Disciplinary actions can be appealed using our appeal form or by contacting any staff member. If any discussions regarding a disciplinary action were to be continued after staff requested the discussions to cease then disciplinary action will be taken against violators of the request; this does include asking for details or trying to appeal disciplinary actions on someone else's behalf. Staff are only permitted to publicly disclose the following information about disciplinary actions: the rule, policy, guideline, or community standard the person broke, if the person received any prior disciplinary actions, if the person was in any probationary period prior to actions taken, if the person was banned or kicked before, and how long a ban set for. Any other information will not be disclosed.
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